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Why are all football pundits morons?

By Ed Gallois on 2012-01-09 15:56:39


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Watching ITV’s half-time studio discussion yesterday between football pundits Roy Keane, Peter Reid and Gareth Southgate for the City vs Utd FA Cup match, I felt like I was being subjected to lowbrow torture. I don’t expect to be intellectually challenged when tuning into a game of football, but the level of their chat was so mindnumbingly inane I almost felt like booting the TV in.

Of course it didn’t help my frame of mind that I was undergoing cold turkey at the time after coming off the opiate tramadol for back pain, but I think I’d have reached my punditry breaking point regardless. It was quite simply years and years of moronic football commentary coming to a head.

In a 10-minute discussion about the first half which saw Utd go 3-0 up, all the pundits kept going on and on about was how Vincent Kompany’s two-footed challenge on Nani wasn’t a sending off. Have they not being watching English football during the past five years? A two-footed tackle always results in a red card these days. Those are the rules. Rules that are there for a reason – to stop players picking up horrific injuries – and which have been applied consistently for several seasons now.

Yes, the rules weren’t so strict when Keane, Reid and Southgate were playing but the game has moved on, unlike their punditry. So why do we still have to be subjected to their misinformed gibberish? Would it have been too much to ask for some insightful half-time analysis which highlighted the tactics and play that resulted in one team's superiority over the other? After all, top-level football is like chess nowadays. Not that you'd know it of course listening to the rubbish on offer from these supposed experts. 

The standard of punditry on the BBC’s flagship football programme Match of the Day is just as bad. After ten pints of snakebite and black I could come up with more meaningful analysis than Alan Shearer. How hard is it, after all, to state that “the boy done good” after Rooney scores a hat-trick or “Tottenham were sensational” after a 5-0 win? What annoys me the most, though, is how black and white the MOTD boys are in their views. One week Blackburn are, according to Alan Hansen, “bad, just soooo bad!” after they narrowly lose 2-1, but “brilliant...brilliant!” when Rovers scrape a 2-1 win the following week.

There are never any grey areas with TV football punditry; each team’s performance is judged only on a week-by-week basis in complete isolation. Thus a first defeat for a side who’d previously won three on the bounce makes them rubbish overnight. What a load of shallow nonsense.

It’s not like the alternative on the radio is that much better either. 5Live football commentary is undoubtedly a step up from its TV counterpart, but you’re still subjected to the same old hackneyed views from people like Alan Green who habitually declares everything on and off the pitch as either “Absolutely disgraceful!” or “Absolutely shocking!” and nothing else in between. Once you move onto TalkSport and other less well-known radio stations you might as well check in to the looney bin. In fact, you need to be certifiably mad to agree with anything they say.

Compare this all to genuinely insightful pundits in other sports like John McEnroe in tennis or Phil Liggett in cycling – people who actually teach you things you don’t know about their sports – and you realise football is horribly short-changing its viewers and has been for some time. I know I'm not the only one who thinks this. The question is what can be done?

All football pundits are morons. I dare you to disagree.

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Live Odds and Scores says:

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 16:15:02


Ed The Head says:

Ed the Head agrees with himself. Agree 1 Disagree 0.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 16:35:18


robalexander says:

Hahahaha, first of all I'm glad you were on tramadol for a reason rather than just taking it!

I tend to agree with you for all the reasons above. You're lucky you don't have to deal with the scottish football pundits! Even more shameful than those south of the border!

Looks like you might need to get an RTE signal, their pundits seem to have some opinion - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4umJSzq9OVs

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 16:44:29


TG91 says:

Very much agree, insulting most of time. Although the a large proportion who watch MOTD etc have very few brain cells so it caters for them well, I'm sure we'll all the agree the average football fan is not the brightest spark.

Know how you feel regarding Tramadol, had trouble coming off that stuff after a bad accident, even worse than Liquid Morphine, and my god that sh*t was good.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 16:50:03


seathestars says:

The Sky punditry is much better, and the person who's really surprised me so far is Gary Neville. When I first saw that he'd become a pundit, I was flabbergasted, because I'd always assumed he was just an idiot. Having watched him though, I think he's insightful and has a good tv manner, as well as seeming like a good natured and nice guy.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 19:10:36


Lucky Nicky says:

Completely agree with the broader point re pundits, but I think that there could be a question mark against Kompany's sending off, if I'm understanding the rules correctly.

According to the FIFA laws of the game, "a two footed tackle that takes down the opponent" is serious foul play and therefore a red card. Clearly that doesn't apply to Kompany's tackle. The more recent addition appears to be the inclusion of "Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play." I can't find anywhere in the rules where it actually states that a two footed is, per se, a red card offence. Clearly the vast majority of two footed tackles will fall into one or both of these definitions, and be deemed a red card offence; but I'd argue that Kompany's is possible a rare occasion when this isn't the case. Happy to be proved wrong if someone can point me to the part about two footed tackles being banned outright.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 19:43:21


Ed The Head says:

@rob - that fella is a tool. An amusing tool sometimes, but still a tool. Basically Roy Keane's lapdog for most of the 90s.
@TG - I like the sound of liquid morphine!
@sea - agreed, Gary (one half of the "busy c*nts", according to Jaap Stam) is watchable.
@Lucky - you are a pedantic moron ;)

Comment posted at: 2012-01-09 20:22:32


Ed The Head says:

Someone pointed out to me last night that Martin Brundle deserves a mention as a top pundit. I second that. I'm not a massive F1 fan, but I could listen to that guy all day as he's so knowledgeable about motor racing and more importantly he always makes an effort to explain the technicalities of the sport to viewers. David Coulthard ain't bad either.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-11 09:28:24


robalexander says:

Martin Brundle is excellent, I agree. He has such passion for the sport and he's able to pass that on to the audience in a way that is still accessible to the people who watch that aren't massive fans. I enjoy listening to him whenever I happen to watch F1. He's always genuinely excited about the race.

I wonder if the BBC MOTD pundits are jaded by having to get excited about a highlights reel rather than a live match. I may be wrong, but their performance and analysis does improve a bit when there are major tournaments on. Even Adebayor was quite good at the World Cup!

Comment posted at: 2012-01-11 10:04:54


Rogrrr says:

I was also pleasantly suprised by Jake Humphries. The best f1 punditary came from Antony Davidson during the practice sessions. It seemed to be aimed at fans with a working knowledge of the sport and despite the best efforts of his co-commentator occasionally explaining what Davidson was talking about was often quite technical. All in all it was hugely +ev and really interesting.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-11 11:47:45


Ed The Head says:

It seems F1 fans are much luckier than their football counterparts! Agree about Humphries, Rogrrr, he's a total pro. First saw him on the Beeb a few years back presenting the Superbowl and was very impressed. A bit like Gary Imlach (who also used to do American football presenting back in the 90s) - you sense he could turn his hand to any form of sports journalism.

It's a fair point, Rob, about the MOTD boys being better at live tournaments. That's when Auntie trounces ITV every time.

One we haven't mentioned is Boris Becker. That fella brings a smile to my face every time he commentates at Wimbledon.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-11 13:08:54


Ed The Head says:

Lucky Nicky - Gary Lineker just backed up your comment that there is no absolute rule against two-footed tackles. In reality, most refs send players off for two-footed lunges, but not it seems Lee Mason tonight who didn't send off Glen Johnson for what must be one of the most obvious red card challenges in years.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-11 22:04:14


ArmchairJockey says:

Gary Imlach's still around, does the Tour on ITV4.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-12 10:36:42


Ed The Head says:

Big fan of Gary each summer. Him and Chris Boardman are a good pair.

Watched the final of the darts at Lakeside last night and the fella who wants to be Sid Waddell (now there's a commentator) was coming out with some amusing turn of phrases:

180 - a tangle of tungsten in the triple twenty bed
Missing a bullseye - stopped at the red light

...and so on. Again, puts football to shame.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-16 10:00:30


Ed The Head says:

Talking of the legendary Sid Waddell, here's some of his best one-liners:

“Jockey Wilson . . . What an athlete.”
“The atmosphere is so tense, if Elvis walked in with a portion of chips, you could hear the vinegar sizzle on them.”
“It's the nearest thing to public execution this side of Saudi Arabia.”
“This lad has more checkouts than Tescos.”
“Even Hypotenuse would have trouble working out these angles.”
“When Alexander of Macedonia was 33, he cried salt tears because there were no more worlds to conquer..... Bristow's only 27.”

And perhaps my fave:

“Steve Beaton, he's not Adonis, he's THE donis”

Comment posted at: 2012-01-16 10:05:36


Rogrrr says:

video=youtube;aSW7Ks1iD4chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSW7Ks1iD4c/video

I think they should do something like this in every sport. Although having said that these Aussie blokes happily admitted that it cost them 0.5s a lap, still something funny about someone slagging off their opposition as "as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike" as they drive past.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-16 12:04:04


Ed The Head says:

That is actually quite incredible that he can hold a conversation while driving at that speed in a proper race against other pros.

Comment posted at: 2012-01-16 12:16:56


ArmchairJockey says:

Ed I think you are on to something.

Someone has actually take the time to make a Ray Wilkins bingo coupon to help pass Sunday afternoons!

Comment posted at: 2012-01-16 13:10:40


Ed The Head says:

Couple of extracts from the brilliant Remote Controller column in this week's Private Eye...

"It also recently emerged that, while newspapers were frothing at the vast sums paid by the BBC to entertainers including Jonathan Ross and Graham Norton, they had taken thier eyes of the ball elsewhere - namely the astonishing fact that the trio of smug golfing chums who generally man the MOTD Saturday night sofa, Gary Linker, Alan Hansen and Alan Shearer, were being paid an estimated 4m annually between them for turning up in questionable leisurewear, watching highlights of matches and discussing them in tedious chichs anodyne enough to allow them still to pal up with the leading managers and players at charity golf tournaments."

......

"The single excitement was Shearer's garish shirt, which may have been an attempt to distract fom the characteristic tedium of his speech. Arsenal's 7-1 demolition of Blackburn drew from him the wisdom that this was 'a real comfortable win for Arsenal.' Asked if an incident in another game was a penalty, Al's analysis ran to: 'For me, it's a penalty.'

Comment posted at: 2012-02-09 18:29:38


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